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280 AI Bullet Selection
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#1
New to reloading and new to the site, but I like the fact that Nosler shows pics of their bullet expansion at different velocities and will tell yous the optimum velocities for them.
For that reason i've decided when I go my 280AI I would like to try some Nosler bullets:
I will exist hunting whitetails in PA & NY so looking at ranges of 15-100yards
Black Bears at the same ranges
Would I be right in guessing try the 120grain Ballistic Tip Hunter for deer and 160 or 175 Partitions for blackness bear?
#2
Welcome to the forum. Yous'll detect some groovy people here. The 280AI is an fantabulous cartridge. What rifle are you planning to use? Are you lot building a burglarize? Or do you anticipate edifice? There is nothing incorrect with using the 120 grain Ballistic Tip or the 160/175 grain bullet in your 280AI. The 120 grain BT is a tough bullet that will serve yous quite well, no doubt. Nevertheless, were I making the choice of bullets, I'd likely cull the 140 grain Ballistic Tip for both animals you are anticipating hunting. I've shot a fair number of whitetails, mule deer and black bears with the 280 Remington and/or the 7mm Remington Magnum; 140 grain bullets accept been my choice for many years, and they accept worked very well for me. Your 280AI will generate velocities that fall between these ii cartridges, nipping on the heels of the 7mm. The 140 grain BT volition work very well on deer and black bears.
I'd sure encourage you to wander over to the thread designed to introduce new members. http://forum.nosler.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=22761 That volition give all of us a chance to run across you.
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#three
I will brand a trip to the new member department. It's a build my brother-in-law is doing for me using a ruger M77 activity.
I wasn't certain if the 140'southward would exist besides much for deer and not enough penetration for bear (100-450pounds) but I certainly similar the idea of working up one hunting load to keep it simpler while learning to reload.
#iv
Simple is skilful. The 120 grain Ballistic Tip is built on the 140 grain jacket; it is a tough bullet and volition work quite well for you lot. I prefer a trivial more than mass, and I've used 140 grain bullets in my various .284 calibre rifles for many years. None of the bullets from various manufacturers have failed me on game animals, and the Ballistic Tip is one of the finest bullets yous can utilise.
#5
...much as hate to disagree west/ Dr. Mike, I'd opt for a 160gr. bullet, if I was doing a single load, @ the ranges you describe y'all are very near the upper end of the "performance envelope" westward/ the lighter bullet, I like the higher exclusive density & in my stance, tougher construction of the heavier bullet, while the differences in velocity, energy, bullet drop, windage, & terminal functioning are marginal out to 400yds...
...like I said, personal opinion, personal preference, based on personal observation & experience...
#half-dozen
Much as I hate to have Cistron disagree with me , I wouldn't feel badly using a 160 grain bullet. I do use a fair number of 160s in my 7RM and in my 7WSM. To be certain, they are more of a good matter and they are excellent in dropping game. You lot wouldn't get wrong with one load slinging 160s. However, were it my rifle, I'd likely even so focus on 140 grain bullets. For toughness, you could consider a 140 grain AccuBond, though for deer and black comport, the Ballistic Tip volition work just fine. If you lot ever think of hunting elk, or moose, or grizzly, for certain y'all'll want a 160 grain pill.
#seven
160 with rl22 to about 3K fps for everything
#eight
Or you could split the deviation for either the 150 Ballistic Tip or the Sectionalisation. Both of those would have decent SDs and good BC.
Mike and Gene nailed it though, a good 140, 150 or 160 would practice alot of work very well.
#9
...150'due south are "of the Debbil", Scotty... :shock: :lol: :mrgreen:
#10
My recommendation was based on the fact that I meet the 280 AI as a 7mm rem mag. In every 7mm mag I ever had I worked the 160 AB to 3k and called it good for everything. Will impale moose elk bear and it volition not bounciness off antelope. :mrgreen:
#xi
But use a 140 gr AccuBond on everything out of the 280 AI ! JMO RJ
#12
My .280 gave me 3000 fps from the 160 Sectionalisation bullet. That is very close to the performance of my 7mm Rem Mag with viii grains less IMR 7828 SSC. It worked great for my grandson'south 350 pound, Texas wild hog!
#13
Oldtrader3":19xswq9z said:
My .280 gave me 3000 fps from the 160 Partition bullet. That is very close to the functioning of my 7mm Rem Mag with 8 grains less IMR 7828 SSC. It worked great for my grandson's 350 pound, Texas wild hog!
Bingo :!:
#14
160 gr AccuBond at 3000 fps
Good for everything from speed goats to Elk
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#xv
Please educate me: I was under the impression that the Partitions, and probably accubonds were going to be amend suited where you lot wanted deep penetration, where the ballistic tip was going to provide faster expansion thus making it a chip more suited for white tails where penetration isn't as crucial as elk, carry, moose
or is the AccuBond a bullet that was designed to aggrandize similar the ballistic tip but retain mass & free energy similar the Partition?
#sixteen
The accubonds do take a lower speed requirement to expand than the PT. Both AB and PT though retain nigh 60% weight.
#17
BTs volition expand a little faster only equally long as your keeping them under 3000 at the impact area, they tend to exist excellent in operation. The 150 BT gets a lot of great reviews as practise the 160's and 140's. if you recall bears are going to be a priority, I would stay with an AB or PT in any weight. If you shoot true, it'll hammer them very hard.
#eighteen
For my standard .280, I'm leaning towards the 140 PT for an all-arounder. Still more work to be done at that place. Information technology it were the AI version, I'd take to at least try the 160s. If for some reason they didn't want to work, there's e'er the 150s or 140s.
Best of luck!
#xix
The 140 gr AB or 160 gr AB will cover everything.
JD338
#20
The 140 gr AB or 160 gr AB will comprehend everything.
, I wouldn't feel badly using a 160 grain bullet. I do use a fair number of 160s in my 7RM and in my 7WSM. To be certain, they are more of a good matter and they are excellent in dropping game. You lot wouldn't get wrong with one load slinging 160s. However, were it my rifle, I'd likely even so focus on 140 grain bullets. For toughness, you could consider a 140 grain AccuBond, though for deer and black comport, the Ballistic Tip volition work just fine. If you lot ever think of hunting elk, or moose, or grizzly, for certain y'all'll want a 160 grain pill.
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